25 Comments ZACUTO EVF – HARSH WORDS SOFTLY SPOKEN

Article written by Skidblog on the 30 Sep 2010 in New tech,Spleen: Venting

Yup, I'm calling you out

BEFORE WE BEGIN:

I have nothing but respect for the manufacturers. Researching, developing and launching new products in such a changeable and unpredictable market is far harder than most of us can probably imagine. They rely on our word of mouth to generate interest and of course sales. Play that game wrong and you will generate a hackload of bad blog wordcounts which will hurt sales. This is exactly what has happened with Zacuto’s somewhat bewildering EVF announcement. I’ve been tracking Steve Weiss from Zacuto patiently trawling the blogs countering assertions from perplexed bloggerati fighting a rearguard action I bet they’ve never had to fight before. It’s hard to have much sympathy for a company which can charge £299 for a glorified magnifying glass but, you know what, that’s an example of where being first to market in a new industry paid dividends and that’s just sound business. Right now though, it’s all a little different. And so to this episode of ‘El Skid Shoots his fat mouth off.’

Zacuto Z-Finder EVF

What am I? I am expensive.

Were you to wander around the rain-soaked streets of Kilburn last night you’d have heard the bone-chilling sound of a British blogger chewing his fingers off in a desperate bid not to write this post. I don’t want to write it, I don’t want to give it the time, I ought to just let it go but that prickly itchy charity mugger behind my retina is the newly announced Zacuto EVF and it’s been niggling me for a full 24 hours now. I have a policy of not simply jumping on the latest news bandwagon announcing stuff that you’ll find on every other site because… well what’s the point, seriously? This is different though. I was there when Brian Valente broke out the Redrock EVF for the first time. Not in public, but behind closed doors in the media room, at the PhotoCine Expo. Then I watched in disbelief as Zacuto’s terrifying social media machine ground into life to repair what I can only presume they thought of as damage: Redrock got there first… I’m not going to name any names but if I read ‘Twitter hugs’ one more time I’m going to shoot myself. That’s the kind of shit you grow out of seconds after gulping down your first breath of placenta free-air. It’s not the language you use to engage a community of smart, self-empowered imaging pro-ams with your premium product range. Zacuto is pitched as the top marque on the block. I wouldn’t expect it from Aston Martin. Would you? What is impressive is how quickly Zacuto mobilised the troops to get their product video shot and up online, it’s just a shame it came across as such a scrambled rearguard marketing wet fart. Listen, I don’t dislike Zacuto, not at all, I just find them infinitely lampoonable, and, as a blogger, well that’s my stock in trade.

Twitter hug Mr. Bond?

Anyway, enough of the communication critique, what about the product? Well, first of all, there actually isn’t a product yet, so there’s nothing to write about. Brian Valente at least had the good grace to bring a working prototype to the table, and not just an empty box where the monitor will go. To be fair to Zacuto, they do at least own up to this in the video. The thing is, until there actually is a product, it’s not news. Right guys, I’m going to make a 5D with 1080 RAW output and a built-in flamethrower and here’s a picture of me with an old 5D which should be all you need to guarantee that it’s going to be on the shelves before you know it. Oh wait, that’s actually worth as much as yesterday’s soiled under-garments (actually in Japan they… um, no let’s not go there).

microEVF rig 2

Redrock EVF - believe it when we see it, but they were first.

Oh, what the hell, let’s let them have their day and assume they can get this thing into production, what are we looking at? Well first off – ‘Zacuto is changing the game again!’ whatever that means. Hurlbut talks a lot about DSLRs being a game changer. Well, he’s right. The Zacuto Z-Finder was a genuinely innovative product, first in class. This EVF is not. The marketing department is getting a little excited again. This product is designed to get the camera rig as close as possible to a traditional ENG style unit, with the weight in line with the rods, over the shoulder so the unit is balanced. They make a big play about this in the video, and we’ve all struggled with unstable rigs due to the need to offset the camera for work with a viewfinder. I’ve been banging on and on about this for a year now, and within ten minutes of owning my own shoulder rig I discovered that mounting the follow focus on the right hand side, with the weight taken by your left hand gave you not only much more stability, but meant you weren’t constantly swapping hands to operate the major controls of the camera, all of which live on the right hand side of the unit. That took me ten minutes to work out, and yet, not once have I ever seen Zacuto propose that as a potential solution to instability. Hey ho, they’re the experts, right?

EVF Monitor

We just got Photoshop

Let’s look at the specs:

  • Actual 16×9 screen
  • 800×480 resolution
  • .087 dot pitch
  • Focus Assist
  • Iris Assist
  • HDMI loop through
  • Operates off Canon LP-E6 Camera battery (1/2 day power)
  • Includes a hot shoe mount or optional articulating arm kit.
  • Can mount to other manufacturer’s rig (RedRock, Cinevate, Letus, etc.) via 1/4 20 screw, 15mm rod or articulating arm
  • All Z-Finder models snap on and off the EVF and can be used interchangeably between the camera screen or EVF screen
  • Includes mini HDMI cable
  • Professional grade construction
  • 12 volt external power

I’m a little confused by the ‘actual 16×9 screen’. In the product photo the screen shows the output from the camera, which isn’t 16×9, so are they squashing the image? The shape of the Z-Finder mount isn’t 16×9 either, designed, as it is, to fit round the camera’s screen. Which isn’t 16×9. So, what does ‘actual 16×9′ actually mean and how are we actually going to be able to view it.

This is a monitor, Marshall 5 inch. Fantastic product.

Focus assist – I believe that’s peaking, which is good. Iris assist – eh? What help do I need with my iris exactly? I think they mean ‘exposure’ assist, which, from the video is likely to be a false colour filter of some sort, which, again, is good. The HDMI loop-through is a great feature, and probably the best part of this unit, allowing you to loop to a second monitor, or a Teradek Cube for wireless monitoring. A real killer feature would have been an in-built HD-SDI converter but that would have added significantly to the cost of course! You get a mini-HDMI cable with the unit (I should bloody well hope so) and it’s ‘Professional’ grade construction (which should help to distinguish it from all those amateur grade products Zacuto keeps inflicting on us). It powers off Canon batteries – I’m kind of caught in two minds about this, those batteries are expensive and I have no idea what ‘half a day’ means in terms of performance – I work long days, surely better to just tell us how many hours guys? Plus, what about the growing army of Panasonic and soon to be Nikon shooters (note to self AA batteries are brand agnostic). They’re envisaging you mounting this thing with an articulating arm – better yet, the much vaunted Zamerican but having used those arms in the field I can tell you this, they always unwind on you. My bet is you’ll spend your whole time having to tighten up your mounting point to the monitor. That’s the inevitable fact of life with articulating arms, and it seems a slightly sketchy solution to a viewfinder mount (compare the Redrock which clamps via a rod). I would hope that the monitor can flip the image too, though there’s no indication that it can, only because, according to the video the cable attaches on the left giving you a nice loop out beyond your shoulder, ideal for hooking onto stuff as you pass, surely it would have been better to attach the cable on the right hand side?

I have nothing to write here, it's pretty self-explanatory

But the real kicker with the Zacuto EVF is that ‘it works with your existing Z-finder’ [P. Bloom] as they share the same mounting platform. Ergo the monitor screen must necessarily be the same size (or very close to) the size of the screen on the back of your DSLR. Hang on a second, rewind, rewind, rewind. My existing Z-Finder? But I don’t own one. Oh right, I need to buy one of those as well? Got it. So, your EVF is not an EVF at all, it’s a monitor, one with a very small screen, which can be used to form part of ‘an EVF system’. Might have to look up the trade descriptions act here but a monitor is a monitor, not an EVF. Moreover, this monitor is essentially a beefed up, devolved version of the camera’s own screen and a particularly bulky one at that. I’ve had a chance to use the 5″ Marshall monitor last week and there’s no doubt, a lightweight low-profile monitor for DSLRs is fantastic, but would you ever really use the Zacuto as a monitor on its own? After all, the whole point about the Z-Finder was that it blew up that tiny screen and gave you a great big image to judge focus with. It’s all a little confusing team Z.

Did anyone ever actually think this was a good idea? How do you see the monitor when you're pulling focus?

The price: estimated at $775 for the monitor and you’ll need another $395 for a Z-finder pro 2.5. Total $1,170. The Redrock offering will come in at an estimated $595. Neither of these companies are ready to ship these products so it’s going to be interesting to see how that one turns out and, with this industry moving so fast it’s got to be hard designing products and getting them to market when the market appears to be gearing up to jump ship to the large-chip camcorders. This Zacuto spec list, and the accompanying video smack of a knee-jerk reaction to gazump a competitor’s glory at being first to the punch. None of it quite adds up to a well  thought-out product and it’s pretty easy to pick holes in the proposition. If I were Zacuto I’d put my hands up and say, you know what, we were trying to piss on Redrock’s parade, but can you blame us? Oh, and by the way, we’re going to stop throwing Twitter hugs around and start treating you like grownups for a change. Oh, and we understand that you’re not made of money and we’re going to work harder to bring you products you can afford.

f*&%ing Twitter Hugs

I will probably get a ton of shit for writing this article, but I’m not attacking the product so much as the idiotic way it’s been brought to our attention. It’s all been just a little, well, childish. I genuinely believe that Zacuto wants to make brilliant products, but I just never get the sense that they go out in the field and use them for hours and hours at a time, understanding the crap we have to put up with, they’re just too obsessed with their image, their videos, their glossy photos and they’re status as leader of the pack. If they did I think they might derive insights that would enable them to create those killer products that we really do all want. The DSLR community exists because of a value proposition – DSLRs represent incredible bang for your buck, that’s the biggest single reason (not the shallow DOF) why we’ve all invested so much effort in them. While Zacuto continue to ignore this fact the only people we’ll be seeing using their gear are the people who got it for free. Now that actually is value for money – Twitter hugs my tweeps. Shizzle my Zizzle, Steve Wizzle – you know where to find me.

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September 30, 2010 11:42 PM Carlos @Twitter ID Website Reply

Telling it like it is as always… Most of these camera blogs have gone down the toilet and turned into advertising sites with no criticism what so ever. Always a pleasure to read your posts.

2010-10-01 13:31:30 Skidblog Website

Cheers Carlos, I did look into the advertising thing but I'd much rather keep my independence and reserve the right to call things my own way. I'm not looking to make any money off the blog, but off the opportunities it creates. All good.

September 30, 2010 11:45 PM Mark @Twitter ID Website Reply

I don’t like the proposed zacuto product, I think that the redrockmicro is a much better prospect, but that is irrelevant really. What I object to is zacuto treating us all like fools.
Their strategy is different to rrm, they want to maximize a revenue stream from their installed base of z-finders. They have adopted a different solution, maybe a reasonable strategy given their customer base, but I would have respected so much more if they had just said…

You may have seen redrocks recent announcement, we thought that we would present our approach to this problem, so you as consumers can make a choice…

Zacuto, stop believing your own PR, there are other suppliers out their. Look up what the phrase game changer means…

2010-10-01 13:31:54 Skidblog Website

Well, it's sound business thinking, but it's a compromised product as a result.

September 30, 2010 11:47 PM Richard Numeroff @Twitter ID Website Reply

totally with you dude…

check out the products from SmallHD.com

expensive but better than the small Marshall…

long battery life, lightweight…

and the lightweight rig from HalfInchRails.com…

combine them and you’ve got the perfect handheld/free flying rig…

can send pics if you are interested…

September 30, 2010 11:51 PM Richard Numeroff @Twitter ID Website Reply

not affiliated with either company – just enjoy their products…

for me as a longtime film and video and HD and Digital Cinematographer… large sensor in a small and light and versatile package is the biggest attraction…

all formats and technologies have their hidden ins and outs…

I love the tech but also look for a degree of simplicity so I can concentrate on creativity…

good luck with all your efforts!

October 1, 2010 12:03 AM KGB @Twitter ID Website Reply

If only they showed up with it attached those new Scarlet cameras RED has out….. oh, wait a minute……..bugger.

Gotta love those marketing folks, “we were first”, retroactively.

October 1, 2010 12:42 AM JS @Twitter ID Website Reply

You read my mind when I looked at that Z EVF yesterday. They need to go back to the drawing board badly.

I’m not in bed with Holywood types, don’t know any, but I feel I understand the DSLR users a helluva lot more than Zacuto.

October 1, 2010 1:12 AM henry @Twitter ID Website Reply

Shame you haven’t also tracked Brain Valente’s “trawling” as you put it:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=224313&page=3

Or have you picked a “side” like in Mac vs PC debacle, and you obviously being on the Red Rock side? As you’ll see, Brain has been defending what some people have labelled a “cardboard” model. Look and you shall find.

There is nothing wrong with “countering assertions”, especially if they are incorrect and spread the wrong information about your product. If I posted a Blog that Robbin Schmidt does shoddy camera work and charges extortionately high prices, I’d expect if it weren’t true for you to respond with accurate information to refute that assertion.

Maybe you are biased, I don’t know, but in every industry competitors frequently announce and release product on top of each other. Nothing new here. Look at Canon, Nikon, Panasonic and Sony. It is business. I know “creatives” sometimes find the concept of business hard to grasp at times. But back-to-back product announcements are not “bewildering”.

It’s interesting you were at Photokina, you got to see the Red Rock EVF, yet this whole blog post has been about the Zacuto Z-Finder EVF you have yet to see.

“This Zacuto spec list, and the accompanying video smack of a knee-jerk reaction to gazump a competitor’s glory at being first to the punch.”

I have no insight into when Zacuto begun working on this new Z-Finder EVF, but I am aware that they public hinted of a “New Z-Finder” in June. Hardly a “knee-jerk reaction”.

Steve Weiss has addressed Zacuto’s pricing policy countless times, Seeing as you are “tracking Steve Weiss” on the internet as you put it, I’m sure you’ve seen where he’s explained Zacuto’s product pricing. If you don’t know why Zacuto gear is expensive, ask your “buddy” Jared to send you a link to an interview where he asked Steve Weiss that question.

If you don’t like twitter hugs, then I suggest you click the unsubscribe button or stop reading the particular Zacuto employee who likes to give out “twitter hugs”. What are you doing looking at Zacuto employee twitter feeds when you are clearly don’t feel

There was nothing “childish” about either of the EVF announcements, what is childish, is the frenzy people get into over pieces of gear. I don’t own either Zacuto or Red Rock gear, I’m still saving to get my camera. But I see people suffering from the Mac vs PC zombie-disease over product announcements. Sulking and complaining about this and that. Like babies. If you don’t like it, please don’t buy it.

Oh, please let us know what you think of the Red Rock follow focus announcement X months ago, I’d love to hear your take on that.

2010-10-01 01:40:36 Skidblog Website

Cool man, I was hoping someone would take the other side of the argument, that's the whole reason for putting blogs up. We debate stuff, the manufacturers learn and we get better products. I actually haven't picked a side you know, I own a lot of Redrock gear but I also have Zacuto gear, Indisystems gear and Shoot35 gear. I love the Shoot35 stuff and wish they had more parts, especially since they're English. I've tried out Zacuto rigs and didn't get on with them. I never actually said there was anything wrong with Steve Weiss countering assertions, and it's good that he does, it shows he cares and we know he does. You have to ask yourself why it is that he needs to. SImilarly with Brian... it looks like the viewfinder is made of cardboard and people, quite rightly question that. That's his fight. Back to back product announcements are no biggie to me, I do of course understand that, and as I pointed out in the blog, it's not so much the fact they did it, it was the manner in which they did it. Zacuto are normally really slick, really detailed (that Shootout test for example, that was amazing and very informative, exhaustive and of course, free). I've no doubt they were planning this unit for some time before now, it's just the way in which they suddenly came out with a video, that was a knee-jerk reaction, I don't think there's any doubt about that. As for being a "creative" I ran a production company for ten years and fortunately picked up a few things about business along the way... It is interesting that I was at Photokina, did you see me there? I only mention that because I was several thousand miles away in LA at the PhotoCIne Expo, a quite different occasion I can tell you, but that's an easy mistake to make! I know exactly why Zacuto gear is expensive and I know it's great for rental houses, but they aggressively market the products to people like myself and I, reasonably I think, want to know why the gear is worth the premium. What was childish was not the announcements, it was the manner in which the three days following the Expo played out, it was utterly bizarre.

You mentioned business before, a large part of my business derives from what I write on this blog, and a big part of that involves keeping on top of what's happening in the community - that means Twitter. But of course, you're absolutely right, I can easily unsubscribe, just as, if you don't agree with my opinions you're more than welcome to say so, or just not read it. That's kind of missing the point, though, which is that really all I've done is say out loud what a ton of other people also think. As for the Redrock Follow Focus, I actually mentioned in the last post (http://www.elskid.com/blog/photocine-expo-things-i-have-learned-in-la) because, as you quite rightly point out, it's nowhere to be seen. Big noise, no product, and Redrock have to take that on the chin. You won't find me defending them for that, looked great on paper but we don't shoot films on paper.

I love the fact you think I've worked myself up into a frenzy, sulking and moaning. I've got nothing to moan about, I've got a fun career on the up, a ton of new contacts across the pond and some exciting projects to work on. I think, if you reread my article, it's actually pretty well-reasoned backed up by practical experience. Jared's a buddy, not a 'buddy', the guy properly looked after me in Los Angeles when he had no obligation to do so. I'm loyal to my friends, and if you're really going to make an issue out of that then seriously I kind of pity you.

Never mind, I appreciate you taking the time to write what you think and like you said, if we don't like a product, then we shouldn't buy it, so I won't. I have no ads on my site, I belong to no affiliates programmes, it's just me. Debate is good, and at the end of day, like I said, you standing up for Zacuto is good for all of us, so thanks again.

2010-10-01 04:52:53 henry @Twitter ID Website

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October 1, 2010 1:19 AM Noel @Twitter ID Website Reply

Ouch! Reminded me of Al Pacino in Scent of a Women. “If I were the man I was five years ago, I’d take a flamethrower to this place !!!”

October 1, 2010 3:36 PM Justin @Twitter ID Website Reply

You know your stuff man!

2010-10-01 16:43:45 Skidblog Website

Ish... all I know is what I works for me in the stuff I do!

October 1, 2010 6:50 PM James @Twitter ID Website Reply

Very amusing, and within the characteristic Skid rant some sound reasoning too.

I love my DSLR… because it’s cheap, because I always have it with me, because sometimes getting my ‘proper’ video camera out of the bag might put me in danger whereas a DSLR passes unnoticed. I love using L lenses and even the ungainliness of it all, and that it makes me nostalgic for my old Bolex h16

I’ve watched from the sidelines as people have invested increasing sums of money in impressive looking rigs and as they’ve invented imaginative workflows to counter the pig of a codec, and hat off, I respect them for it – they are more courageous than I.

But another grand+ on a viewfinder? Never a truer word spoken than your take on the value proposition.

I think I’ll stick with my trusty old LCDVF…

Keep shooting from the hip mate.

October 1, 2010 6:55 PM Skidblog @elskidblog Website Reply

Cheers big v – ranting has become characteristic… crikey. I’m not like that in real life I hope!

October 1, 2010 7:01 PM henry @Twitter ID Website Reply

“Comment is awaiting moderation” LOL!

This isn’t one of those Kumbaya-Let’s -All-Hold-Hands blogs is it? Where we all have to agree with the author or else “you are not welcome here”, or better yet, your comments are deleted or not published.

God save the bloggers.

2010-10-01 20:20:16 Skidblog Website

Comment is awaiting moderation?

Where did you see that? Never ever ever going to censor this site, what's the point, that would be so pointless. Be as critical as you like, it all adds to the spice!

Dog shave the doggers

2010-10-01 20:30:36 henry @Twitter ID Website

look above ?

October 1, 2010 8:49 PM Skidblog @Twitter ID Website Reply

weird, not seeing anything, just looks normal to me and nothing on the WordPress panel to suggest comments aren’t getting through. Bizarre.

October 1, 2010 11:00 PM henry @Twitter ID Website Reply

here’s a screenshot.

2010-10-03 00:59:04 Skidblog Website

Don't see anything dude, not unapproving you, you're free to comment as much as you like

October 4, 2010 4:24 AM Ash @Twitter ID Website Reply

Careful now Skid, you’ll have Mister Bloom knocking at yer door!

October 5, 2010 11:38 AM Sean J Vincent @seanjvincent Website Reply

Seriously… if i hear ‘We’re changing the game’ one more time..

Since when was this a game? And since when did having an EVF change much about it? You can move your DSLR 4 inches to the right now? Great…good for you.

I think Zacuto make some good stuff…their rail systems and quick release stuff is good, but this EVF that isn’t actually an EVF is crazy…too much money, not enough thought gone into it. You’re right about the articulating arm mounting.. I use one for my 7″ monitor. It stays put for a while, but it needs tightening quite regularly…and that’s without me shoving my eye up against it.

I’d rather spend the cash on more lenses or a sizable chunk towards an AF101.

Keep dishing it out Mr Skid.

January 15, 2012 7:30 AM Jaime Warriner Website Reply

Very neat blog post.Really looking forward to read more. Awesome.

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